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				<description><![CDATA[If you did not read Part I or II, click here to read Part I, and click here to read Part II.  They are necessary to understand this one. MODERN CHRISTIAN: Can you quote me something from these writers? ANCIENT CHRISTIAN: Yes, Justin Martyr said, “We do not receive these things as common bread or [&#8230;]]]></description>
					<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you did not read Part I or II, <a href="https://www.danielhannawriter.com/a-dialogue-on-the-eucharist-part-i-an-ancient-christian-and-a-modern-christian/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">click here to read Part I</a>, and <a href="https://www.danielhannawriter.com/a-dialogue-on-the-eucharist-part-ii-an-ancient-christian-and-a-modern-christian/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">click here to read Part II</a>.  They are necessary to understand this one.</p>
<p><span style="color: #339966;">MODERN CHRISTIAN: Can you quote me something from these writers?</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #3366ff;">ANCIENT CHRISTIAN: Yes, Justin Martyr said, <span style="color: #000000;">“We do not receive these things as common bread or common drink; but as Jesus Christ our Savior being incarnate by God&#8217;s Word took flesh and blood for our salvation, so also we have been taught that the food consecrated by the Word of prayer which comes from him, from which our flesh and blood are nourished by transformation, is the flesh and blood of that incarnate Jesus&#8221; (<em>The First Apology</em>, Chapter 66, c. 150s AD).</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #3366ff;">We can further discuss mentions of the Eucharist in the writings of the earliest Christians.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #339966;">MODERN CHRISTIAN: That is just one writer.  We would need several who did not know each other nor lived in the same place from the 2<sup>nd</sup> Century to establish continuity with the Apostles and our Lord Jesus Christ in the 1<sup>st</sup> Century and show that the belief that the bread and wine are truly the Body and Blood of Jesus goes back to Jesus and is therefore correct.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #3366ff;">ANCIENT CHRISTIAN: There are several writers who did not know each other nor lived in the same place that all had the same belief about the Eucharist, and this establishes continuity with the Apostles and our Lord Jesus Christ.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #339966;">MODERN CHRISTIAN: Like?</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #3366ff;">ANCIENT CHRISTIAN: Like Ignatius of Antioch.  This is a man who was a disciple of John the Apostle and knew Peter the Apostle as well.  He died as a martyr at the hands of the Romans around 107 AD.  He began traveling under Roman guard from Antioch to Syria for his martyrdom.  On his way there, he wrote seven letters.  Think about this.  These are the thoughts of a man who knows he will die within weeks.  They show you a glimpse into the heart of a 1<sup>st</sup> Century Christian and what he thought most important.  In addition, it shows you <em>what he held fast to</em>, <em>what was taught him by the Apostles</em>.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #3366ff;">In four out of the seven letters he wrote, he spoke about the Eucharist.  It is interesting how a man who does not have much time left would spend so much time on the Eucharist, which you think is only a symbol, when he could have spent time on other things like giving money to the poor.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #3366ff;">In his Letter to the Ephesians, Ignatius wrote, <span style="color: #000000;">“All of you, individually and collectively, gather together in grace, by name, in one faith and one Jesus Christ, who physically was a descendent of David, who is Son of Man and Son of God, in order that you may obey the bishop and the council of presbyters with an undisturbed mind, breaking one bread, which is the medicine of immortality, the antidote we take in order not to die but to live forever in Jesus Christ” (Ephesians 20, Holmes translation).</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #3366ff;">How can a symbol be the medicine of immortality?  I thought only our Lord Jesus Christ was that?  Oh wait, the Eucharist is also the Body and Blood of our Lord, and Ignatius makes that clear here.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #3366ff;">Then, in his Letter to the Romans, as he wrote about dying as a martyr in graphic terms, he said, <span style="color: #000000;">“I take no pleasure in corruptible food or the pleasures of this life.  I want the bread of God, which is the flesh of Christ who is of the seed of David; and for drink I want His blood, which is incorruptible love” (Romans 7.3, Holmes translation).</span>  A soon-to-be martyr is preoccupied with the Eucharist, but you believe the earliest Christians (including Ignatius) thought it was a symbol.  That is interesting indeed.  He is comparing his death with Christ’s death, and his love for Christ with Christ’s love as shown in the shedding of His blood for us.  This is why he is fixated on the Eucharist because it really is the Body and Blood of Christ, <span style="color: #000000;">“which suffered for us,”</span> as he later said to the Smyrnaeans.</span><span id="more-407"></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #3366ff;">In his Letter to the Philadelphians, he said, <span style="color: #000000;">“Take care, therefore, to participate in one Eucharist (for these is one flesh of our Lord Jesus Christ, and one cup that leads to unity through His blood” (Philadelphians 4, Holmes translation).</span>  He is as clear as crystal here.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #3366ff;">Then, in his Letter to the Smyrnaeans, he wrote that the heretics, <span style="color: #000000;">“Abstain from Eucharist and prayer because they refuse to acknowledge that the Eucharist is the flesh of our savior Jesus Christ, which suffered for our sins and which the Father by his goodness raised up” (Smyrnaeans 6.2, Holmes translation).</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #3366ff;">The heretics whom he was writing against, known as the Docetists (who denied that our Lord Jesus Christ was human), denied the Eucharist because they understood correctly that this was the Body and Blood of Christ.  But, how could they partake of it if they didn’t even believe that our Lord Jesus Christ became flesh?</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #3366ff;">Now we have two Christian authors who did not know each other: Ignatius of Antioch lived in the late 1<sup>st</sup> century through most of the first decade of the 2<sup>nd</sup> century.  He lived in Antioch.  Justin Martyr, who I mentioned earlier, lived in Rome in the mid-2<sup>nd</sup> century.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #3366ff;">There is a third Christian I would like to mention: Irenaeus of Lyons.  He lived in Lyons, in what is modern day France in the late 2<sup>nd</sup> Century.  This man wrote a book called <em>Against Heresies</em> which listed the beliefs that the church had received from our Lord Jesus Christ and the Apostles and how the different heresies stood against these beliefs.  He wrote about the Eucharist and said, <span style="color: #000000;">“Just as the bread which comes from the earth, having received the invocation of God, is no longer ordinary bread, but the Eucharist, consisting of two realities, earthly and heavenly, so our bodies, having received the Eucharist, are no longer corruptible, because they have the hope of the resurrection” (<em>Against Heresies, </em>Book IV, Chapter 18.4-5, c. 180 AD).</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #3366ff;">You have three men, from three countries, who all bore witness of the same reality: <span style="color: #000000;">“By the mouth of two or three witnesses the matter shall be established” (Deuteronomy 19:15).</span>  There are many other witnesses of the reality of the Eucharist, but the point is clear.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #3366ff;">All Christians until Ulrich Zwingli (early 1500s), unless they were heretics who denied essential truths about the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit like our Lord Jesus Christ being human, believed that the Eucharist was really the Body and Blood of our Lord Jesus Christ.  That is continuity and universal witness among Christians.  It is very well documented.</span></p>
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